tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post8422199832141903027..comments2023-04-23T16:25:04.792-06:00Comments on Waldemar Wegelin: Cream – lots of work and a bit of funAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09755481930157115608noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-49932986121871483502008-10-03T05:23:00.000-06:002008-10-03T05:23:00.000-06:00doubt Wal will listen as lots of people have tried...doubt Wal will listen as lots of people have tried to tell him the same thing it's just be ignored...<BR/><BR/>Wal, has the feedback on here been vastly different to the teams you have show your book to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-25980861348294921192008-10-02T15:19:00.000-06:002008-10-02T15:19:00.000-06:00A senior creative at Saatchi's when I was doing th...A senior creative at Saatchi's when I was doing the rounds with my book, pulled my book to bits and after nearly an hour on the ropes I said very lamely <BR/>'that Malcolm Duffy liked it' (Thinking back I can't believe I said it, I was young:) but he replied, 'so why didn't he give you a job?' long silence...<BR/><BR/>Over the next month I completely redone my book after REALLY listening to his advice, I got my first job under Andrew Cracknell at 21 at Bates Dorland.<BR/><BR/>Some good advice on this thread, my advice really LISTEN, you'll then get your job<BR/><BR/><BR/>Good luck and get scamping :)Kevin Ferryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157463721113006055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-43489611647632769122008-10-02T02:13:00.000-06:002008-10-02T02:13:00.000-06:00stay nice please. or leave.stay nice please. or leave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-19828697347505217592008-10-01T10:19:00.000-06:002008-10-01T10:19:00.000-06:00Agreed - great at execution due to your very good ...Agreed - great at execution due to your very good mac skills Wal but the strategies aren't up to your visuals and copy could do with some work in general.<BR/><BR/>I'd spend more time on creating the idea than getting it to look good if I were you.<BR/><BR/>By a long way, that's not saying your awful, you're hitting top agencies but to land your ideal job I think tackling this key issue will get you in to any of these agencies full time...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-33427098693583733612008-10-01T07:27:00.000-06:002008-10-01T07:27:00.000-06:00have to agree with above comments, every campaign ...have to agree with above comments, every campaign in your book should have a great piece of thinking behind it, your logic is just strange in most of your campaigns. <BR/><BR/>take the hummer one for example, there is no wit of lateral thinking, you just say its a car made by wankers for wankers. <BR/><BR/>it's a book that will get you placements but judging by your thinking it's obvious you would struggle a bit cracking the real briefs.<BR/><BR/>I'd really focus on your strategy lads, quickly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-49698333042224113352008-10-01T06:29:00.000-06:002008-10-01T06:29:00.000-06:00paperchase - not done with Jai!NSPCC - created wit...paperchase - not done with Jai!<BR/><BR/>NSPCC - created with another parter!<BR/><BR/>TFL - 2 years old!<BR/><BR/>You need to show how you guys can produce great stuff together, not waste opportunities by showing off old/good work over and over as it's reliable and had positive feedback.<BR/><BR/>You're good enough to get this job, you just need to do more as a team - i.e. your bank campaign although you seem to have left it as you'd posted on this blog and not taken any advice from here on board.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-70172299469201146132008-10-01T04:17:00.000-06:002008-10-01T04:17:00.000-06:00four new campaigns in a year! careful you don't s...four new campaigns in a year! careful you don't strain yourself mate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-28923805623369763322008-10-01T04:13:00.000-06:002008-10-01T04:13:00.000-06:00dude, get your facts straight before you punch. we...dude, get your facts straight before you punch. we had four new campaigns in our book and various 'other stuff' in the portfolio that wasn't there last year. the old stuff was paperchase, tfl, and nspcc, which will change soon as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-70690575839602346842008-10-01T04:08:00.000-06:002008-10-01T04:08:00.000-06:00Wal, you really do stick your chin out to get punc...Wal, you really do stick your chin out to get punched on here!<BR/><BR/>Why/how was you allowed to enter Cream with most of the same work from the year before. <BR/><BR/>It seems you'd rather to t-shirts posters to promote your 'brand' when you said only a while ago it's 'all about the book'.<BR/><BR/>It took me a while to get a job but it eventually came through slogging on the book, not by touting myself as part of a brand and hoping no one will worry about the book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-55191158618524929032008-10-01T03:35:00.000-06:002008-10-01T03:35:00.000-06:00rest assured we read all of them and discuss the i...rest assured we read all of them and discuss the interesting ones just as we appreciate the constructive and critical ones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-26099550879747484012008-10-01T03:28:00.000-06:002008-10-01T03:28:00.000-06:00Wal, Jai... why are you not replying to any commen...Wal, Jai... why are you not replying to any comments?<BR/><BR/>would you sit there in a crit and say nothing... I'd say a lot of the comments are harsh but true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-7568040695975888482008-10-01T03:07:00.000-06:002008-10-01T03:07:00.000-06:00It's all about ideas. Whether it's on TV or online...It's all about ideas. <BR/><BR/>Whether it's on TV or online. There's no different skill set or different way of thinking. The best creatives don't restrict themselves. They just want to come up with great ideas, regardless of the media. Juan Cabral included (Tate modern work - digital). <BR/><BR/>It's just really frustrating when you get idiot creatives who are so narrow minded, and only want to do TV and posters. Creatives should just want to do ideas. Because that's what counts.<BR/><BR/>And saying 'digital at ITS best is ok', is just plain naive. Look what's dominated gold pencils the past couple of years at D and ad? Digital.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and by the way I work above the line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-6216806092269321812008-10-01T02:58:00.000-06:002008-10-01T02:58:00.000-06:00How can you write digital stuff is only OK on a bl...How can you write digital stuff is only OK on a blog?!?!?! If there was no digital there would be no blogs. No make sense!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-87566846544564966972008-10-01T02:53:00.000-06:002008-10-01T02:53:00.000-06:00That sounds like more of a diss than than you clai...That sounds like more of a diss than than you claimed :P<BR/><BR/>Arguing about preferred ad media is like arguing about what kind of music is "the best". I'm a tech geek and like digital stuff, games, interactive media, digital POS, mobile apps, iTouch apps etc. So I don't think I'm kidding myself, it's a lot of fun if you like doing it. You can't judge a genre by it's majority work. Yeah there are a lot of banners, but banners lead to whole website experiences which digital creatives get to make. That's the fun bit.<BR/><BR/>Anyway I'm done. big love to fully integrated, all media campaigns! 'Til the day that all are one...]-[appy Thoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18306899311730477283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-17801511464722834792008-10-01T02:39:00.000-06:002008-10-01T02:39:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.]-[appy Thoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18306899311730477283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-35486945413125008732008-10-01T01:54:00.000-06:002008-10-01T01:54:00.000-06:00Don't kid yourself...digital at it's best is ok, b...Don't kid yourself...digital at it's best is ok, but the majority of it is and always will be banners and pointless pap. So over it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-11481644276170366142008-09-30T17:16:00.000-06:002008-09-30T17:16:00.000-06:00I realize the above was not a diss, but digital wo...I realize the above was not a diss, but digital work takes a certain type of creative mind. I freely admit that I can't do D&AD winning posters for example, but I can make a website ok. Such is the way we are. <BR/><BR/>Only try digital if you're willing to forget everything bucks taught you. It's hard but rewarding if you're that way inclined! Not that digital agencies are that hot on new starters it seems at the moment. Not with all the above the teams trying to switch sides before they get credit crunched out the industry (that's not a diss).]-[appy Thoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18306899311730477283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-5992931873693036382008-09-30T15:00:00.000-06:002008-09-30T15:00:00.000-06:00Anon 9:14's advice is the best advice I've ever re...Anon 9:14's advice is the best advice I've ever read on this blog (and trust me i read it a lot, you guys are better than corrie and eastenders rolled into one). If i was you two (which I'm not because I have a job) I would print that out and stick it above your bed.<BR/><BR/>don't take the criticism hard, it's only because everyone's frustrated that you haven't got anywhere yet. <BR/><BR/>don't wear the t-shirts again.<BR/><BR/>don't go on another placement without getting a job.<BR/><BR/>And if your going to at least get a decent ad for your book out of it. If you can spend time in w+k and not come out with something you want to stick in your book then you need to listen to Anon 9:42's advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-59081543614051061092008-09-30T14:42:00.001-06:002008-09-30T14:42:00.001-06:00Being nice does not mean you will get a job, nice ...Being nice does not mean you will get a job, nice won't win you awards and make your ECD give you a pay rise.<BR/><BR/>I'd simply lower your expectations and get a gob in a digital agency (thats not a diss) or a place like McCanns.<BR/><BR/>Your book shows you are not cut out for a top agency and after a few years doing the rounds you might have to accept not everyone is equally talented and are punching above your weight.<BR/><BR/>Sorry lads, no point blowing smoke up yer asses like some idiots do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-3228511702517266142008-09-30T14:42:00.000-06:002008-09-30T14:42:00.000-06:00Forgive me if Im wrong, but if your books exactly ...Forgive me if Im wrong, but if your books exactly the same as last year and you weren't working with Jai then.<BR/><BR/>What have you guys done together?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-44013483230693095582008-09-30T14:26:00.000-06:002008-09-30T14:26:00.000-06:00Jai/Wal, ignore all this ludicrous shit about Watf...Jai/Wal, ignore all this ludicrous shit about Watford and completely re-doing your book. It's already got you into the best agency in town. I admit not to being the biggest fan of some of your book work, but you'll get a job very soon. You guys have a very valuable and rare quality rarely seen in this industry: you're not a pair of arrogant jumped-up cocks. It's very refreshing in this day and age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-81621725204054569792008-09-30T14:14:00.000-06:002008-09-30T14:14:00.000-06:00wal. i've worked at a few london agencies. i know ...wal. i've worked at a few london agencies. i know you off the blog, and have met you a few times too. you seem a genuinely nice guy.<BR/><BR/>i do however have to agree with some of the comments above.<BR/><BR/>you need to be turning over more work. much more. there shouldn't be a single campaign in your book from last year unless it is brilliant. ask yourself that question. and dont be precious if it took you long to mac it up.<BR/><BR/>the fallons and wiedens will not give a shit if everything is scamps. even if they are scamps on scraps of paper. believe me i know.<BR/><BR/>turning over more work will not only help you build a better folio. it will sharpen your thinking. time on a placement will be better spent.<BR/><BR/>your ads should be better than what teams currently employed are doing.<BR/><BR/>i wish you all the best.<BR/><BR/>and one last piec eof advice would be. only go to see people/teams who you creatively repsect. when they make suggestions you will most likely be... yeah! amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-37414885468437344112008-09-30T13:32:00.000-06:002008-09-30T13:32:00.000-06:00afraid I agree with the peeps on here, the book is...afraid I agree with the peeps on here, the book is not as good as I though it would be... in fact it's just an average book that will get you placement but you need to push a lot harder than that to get a job now.<BR/><BR/>the bottom line is the thinking and strategy is poor, nicely mac'd up visuals will not hide that fact.<BR/><BR/>that seems to be what is missing, the teams who understand and have great strategies in there book will get placements and have what it takes to crack live briefs... which will get them a job somewhere.<BR/><BR/>what annoys me is that not all negative feedback is spiteful, coming from fellow placement teams... and you choose not to listen.<BR/><BR/>I'd say Watford is your best bet too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-80327530594268963522008-09-30T10:29:00.000-06:002008-09-30T10:29:00.000-06:00I reserved judgement until now, but Just had a loo...I reserved judgement until now, but Just had a look at you're portfolio sight and finally witnessed some of your work. I'm sorry to say I'm NOT surprised that you haven't got a job yet; most of it has been done before and the rest just doesn't work (sorry...) and TYPOS (come on guys)! You need to work on your visuals, improve your drawings and beauty shots, I'd personally do a postgrad course because I actually don't think you're anywhere near the standard for industry yet, despite hovering around it for god-knows-how-many years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35498698.post-77518692057752316682008-09-30T10:28:00.000-06:002008-09-30T10:28:00.000-06:00happy birthday Wal.i don't care what anyone else s...happy birthday Wal.i don't care what anyone else says, i love you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com